Sunday, April 17, 2011

PAY THE MAN



About five years ago, someone I know well, casually asked me why we still had our shitty Daewoo Nubira when we “clearly must be rolling in it, with me working and all?”  and “shouldn’t we be able to just buy a new car outright with all the cash we must earn?”  I was kind of caught off guard and I stuttered and spewed forth an answer that in all honesty, this person didn’t deserve.  I manically tried to explain that we owned our cars and although they weren’t new, to get better ones would mean new loans.  And with Sam needing Speech Pathology, paediatric care and basically, well,  just life, we didn't really want to do that.  

 

It wasn’t until I got home and dissected the conversation,  did I realise that this mother of one, who had rarely worked, who didn’t have a mortgage and had recently been the recipient of a brand new car courtesy of daddy, had made me feel inferior for working.  And had clearly made assumptions about my life. 

 

But here’s the thing, two working in the family when you have children, doesn’t necessarily equate to coming out on top moneywise.   It often just equals survival.

 

My personal situation is this:  I work part time, between 3 and 4 days a week,  spending one day with my wayward son  Jack, the exuberant four year old.  This means we pay for four full days of child care a week, four days of afterschool care for the older two per week and vacation care during the school holidays.

 

The amount we are subsidised for this child care each week  is based on our income.  Meaning that  our daily fees are reduced by X amount from the Family Assistance Office, depending on joint taxable incomes.   The amount you are able to be subsidised reduces when a certain level of income is achieved.  To work out the exact level it reduces at however, would require you to master Centrelink Childcare Rates x Income x amount of children x the exact date sputnik was launched.  Basically it should be taught at Uni as Centrelink Mindfuckery 101.  


Then, at the end of every quarter, because I qualify (meaning I work, study or am training) I am refunded 50% of our out of pocket child care expenses.  This at present, is not means tested. 

 

This week however, the whispers have been getting louder that along with slashing Education and Health Care (Do not even get me started) that the child care rebate is about to be means tested.  Meaning that, if you earn a certain total income, you may no longer be eligible for the 50% rebate. 

 

So here’s what I imagine will happen.  One half of the couple will probably either cut back or quit their job altogether, therefore ceasing to be a taxpayer.   On the flip side however, Family Assistance will then step in and pay more in FTB A and B because of the income and the fact that there is now only one person working.   Childcare will also be subsidised higher by Centrelink due to the fact that their joint income has gone down.  So in essence, the government will not be saving themselves any money.  In fact the only thing that will have changed here is that someone who was once gainfully and presumably, happily employed, is no longer  a) paying taxes and b) where they wanted to be. 


There are of course, many variations to this situation.  Single parent families, single income families and to be honest, I'm not even sure these changes will affect our family.




And hey, I understand there has to be cutbacks.  I get that we've just had major disasters on a scale never seen before.    I also understand that these are my children and such, it was always my responsibility to budget for them.  But life isn't that simple.  These kids will be the ones paying the way in the future, they are necessary and to sustain them these days, and I'm not even talking about having a fancy lifestyle here, often both parents have to work.  But making it more difficult for people to work, whether they have children or not, just does not make sense. 




 
I know I am seeing this from my point of view, as a working parent, but hopefully I’ve pointed out here that we already penalise hard workers in Australia.  The more you earn, the more you pay in tax.  There is no incentive.


And hey, Mr Swan, you know that cash economy you guys are constantly trying to stamp out, yeah, this idea is not going to help you there.


Thoughts?

26 comments:

nikkimoffitt said...

Great post but special mention must go to the labels. Assumptions of assholes, Centrelinks mindfuckery of formulas - absolute gold!

So Now What? said...

Haha, thanks Nikki. Not ever comfortable writing serious stuff. Don't like offending people and knowing everyone is in a different situation, hate to think I'm putting people offside. I'll resume stupid posts about Kumbaya and Lego men dropping like bombs in due course. xx

Jo-anne "Blossy" said...

I'm with you on this one. Sometimes it just doesn't pay to work :( they certainly don't make it easy on families. And I thought Labor was for the people not against them. I'm thinking that come next election there might be another big change on the horizon.

Penny said...

Survival is right. We struggle with the kids in daycare two days a week - they're not even at school yet. Great post. It is exactly how I feel.

Dorothy said...

I think that the system is basically screwing those on medium incomes, where it actually is not worth working because the costs associated with childcare are so high.

I am choosing not to work at the moment and have my younger child in childcare three days a week and the system works for me, for which I am grateful. But then I have issues I need to deal with and I feel that I've paid my share of taxes, so for now I am happy for the system to feed my children and put a roof over our heads. And the system worked for us when I was working full time, as I am a sole parent. It certainly wouldn't if I'd been in a two income household. There is no financial incentive at all to work in that situation, unless you get a really high income.

Kelly said...

Great post, its doesn't just effect families though, I am a single work full time, and I have a friend that has CHOSEN to be a sole parent, and she earns $200 more a week from centerlink then I do from working full time..I have absolutely no incentive the work. I watch my brother an his wife struggle with this child care rebate business and it does my head in!, I don't know how you all do it.

Angie said...

Onya Bern. Great Post. I wrote my letter to the PM last night about this very issue. I don't think they have any idea of the absolutely catastrophic consequences on families of cutting back things like the child care rebate. Isn't it bad enough that the cost of EVERYTHING is constantly going up? That you can't buy a house for less than $500k in so many places? That we are being squeezed from every direction??

Deb said...

i've moved my youngest to a family day care mum which is $20+ a day cheaper than the daycare centre she was in, but no rebate because she does it privately. I have also got my parents to have her 2 days to save some money. I have also brought my eldest to the school i work at to avoid before and after school care costs. The childcare rebate is a joke. you still have to fork out for it upfront. sure, a $1500 deposit in the bank every quarter is nice, but I would rather see it in reduced fees up front.

all this, and hubby and I are on a good salary, but cannot rub 2 cents together as my mum would say.... and you know what it is (apart from the mortgage) car repayments. we needed a new car, ours was on its last legs, but its a killer repayment.

bigwords is... said...

So true Bern. We worked out that we would be better off for me not to work (I do not get any benefits) than to try and pay for three kids in childcare. It"s all crazy. When it comes to kids best interests, work choice, life choice, health and education there should be government support, particularly from the Labor Government.

Maxabella said...

They really don't want mothers to go back to work, do they? x

Sarah said...

This is a subject that gets steam coming out my ears. On one hand we're encouraged to work and on the other hand it's made so damn difficult. At one point when I was working full time with my little ones in full time daycare we calculated we were making $50 a week from my income after we'd paid the daycare fees.This was a few years back. The thing is I LIKE working and I'm good at it, but right now working from home is the only feasible way to do it. GRRRRRRRR.

Lucy said...

Working from home or school hours only (yeah, good luck), once you have all kids in primary school is the only viable way for me. I get no rebates.

Aside from all $$ levels, it shits me that the tax system penalises 50% of a couple for wanting to earn. We are discouraged from attempting to "get ahead".

Bern, great post, on a topic you know more about than most, given your accountancy experience.

It shits me. Mindfuckery indeed.

Mrs BC said...

Great post, couldn't agree more. A few years back the husband & I where both working huge hours to pay a fortune in childcare fees, for children we hardly ever saw in daylight hours. No incentive out of that situation at all :(
Eventually we moved interstate, to the land of cheap houses & SAHMs.
Still coping with Centrelink Mindfuckery though. You need to trademark that term!
x

River said...

I'm older so don't have children to support, (they're all working now), but I have no savings and I'm unable to work full time now because of physical injuries that are having long term consequences. So I'm very glad to have a centrelink boost to my small income so that I can pay my rent AND still buy food.
With the high cost of absolutely everything these days, I really don't know how the heck you people with small and school age kids manage to make ends meet. I was able to stay home until my youngest started school, but even back then, we went without a lot.
I'll never understand government financial policies. They seem to be screwing everybody but themselves.

Mum In The Burbs said...

I'm like a few others, I can't really afford to work because the childcare for 3 kids would cancel out my wage. It annoys me when people say "you're so lucky you don't have to work", when it takes a lot of serious budgeting and effort to keep it all together.

Deer Baby said...

I'm in the UK but it sounds very scarily similar. The government keep saying they want mothers to go back to work on one hand, and will penalise them if they don't, but when they do they take away everything that could make it possible. We're having tax credits slashed, child benefit axed or means tested, flexible working curtailed, Sure start and work placement nurseries closed down.

Christie-Childhood 101 said...

I think whatever your decision is - to work or not - for most mothers in Australia, we juggle every dollar in order to afford to live and eat, let alone have any fun! I have no answers but simply wish that our simple costs for living were cheaper, taking the pressure off us all

Yvette Vignando said...

My head is spinning Bern - you lost me at 'Sputnik', which I think was your intention, and is in fact no doubt the intention of Centrelink.

Two things stood out for me in what you wrote:
1. I am sure I am not claiming what we are meant to claim for before school care because when I intitially registered I could barely understand the explanation given by the Centrelink information person (after a lifetime of being on hold) about how I needed to call back in the new year and register and re-register and quote various numbers or do something, possibly to do with the Sputnik. So I think the government is probably already saving a fortune on people like me.
2. I really dislike the assumptions people make about how much other people must be or should be earning in their glamorous jobs. So often it's wrong. So wrong. And if only we could understand our Centrelink entitlements, we could perhaps prove they are wrong by flashing around our Centrelink statements - except that it's none of their business.

julian dunmurphy said...
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julian dunmurphy said...

The liberation here is less stuff. The typical Australian primate considers electricity and it appliances, vehicles and big "fuck-off" properties as necessities.
All specimens who remember the 30's depression call me a spoilt weak pussy, even though I own just 1 pair of shoes.
Our penchant to believe marketers that we need their wares is keeping us in this prison.
i.e. libs, labour, green or indy - you're going to live on your line.

Jackie K said...

Hmm, I DON'T agree with the comment from Julian. My husband and I both work full time not because we have loads of stuff and a McMansion, but because we chose to buy a normal 3-bedroom house in a modest suburb, and need to pay off the mortgage. I worked part-time for awhile after my maternity leave, but for now I work full-time and we're making the best of things for us and our kids.
You do need an accountacny degree to work out all the Centrelink payments and rebates and what you would be better off doing. I did work out at some point that we would be better off with me working 4 days than 5 but my head hurts trying to remember the details.
We get none of the family tax benefits but we are very grateful for the childcare rebate which is a big help.
Good post!

Anonymous said...

Why not go into a Centrelink office, not a Medicare one, as they are only learning the system themselves. Sit down with an assessor and get them to explain it to you until you understand! The only way to gain the knowledge is to do it over and over again!

Most people ring when they are busy, distracted etc and of course it is confusing at those times when you aren't fully focused on the information.

Just my advice as a Centrelink employee!

Michelle

Faybian said...

I've been using child care in some form or another for 22 years and have seen many schemes come and go. They dream up schemes such as rebates, then cut back on them and so it goes. I am at the stage where we are finally on the downward run with childcare. Of course then we'll probably be silly enough to be paying secondary school fees. I tend to think that centrelinks version of the high income earner has not changed significantly in about a decade and it is now that of a middle income earner. We haven't had any benefits from centerline for years (aside from childcare rebate) and quite frankly I'm glad. I'd rather not have them in my life on a regular basis.

Zoey @ Good Goog said...

The whole rebate and child care benefit scheme I find extremely confusing to say the least. We worked out early on that the benefit of me working full-time would be pretty minimal with the cost of child care and the logistics of us both commuting would have been nightmarish. I was lucky in that I wanted to stay home anyway, but shudder to think what it would look like if I did want to go back to work.

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